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basil

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I have had a rescue dog for 6 months now.  He is only about 18 months, and he is a beautiful dog, inside and out.  After he had been with us for a couple of weeks, he got conjuntivitis.  I took him to the vet, and she said he also had an ulcerated cornea.  She thought it was due to an allergy of some sort.  Perhaps it was something in the forest where I walk him.  With treatment, it cleared up.  Then he went back to his foster Mum whilst I was working away, as he cant be left alone yet.  When he was there he got a very sore nose.  Michelle took him to the vet and got treatment, but the vet also did the test for Leishmaniosis, but it came back clear.
I was in the kitchen last night and Ben came through, and I noticed the area around his eyes was starting to puff up, hed been fine a few minutes before..  Within the space of half an hour, it was so puffy, his eyes were nearly shut.  He was so distressed trying to rub them on me, and anything else.  I tried to bathe them with salt water, which was difficult, as they were obviously, irritating or hurting so much.  Then he starting vomiting, and had diarhorrea, which may or may not have been connected.
To me, it sounds like an allergic reaction.  I have scoured the garden, but we only have grass and cypress trees, all the other plants are at the front, out of Bens reach.  His eyes are fine today, although his stomach is still a little unsettled.
Has anybody seen this sort of thing before, because I am really worried.  I was up all night with him making sure he was ok.  I would be so grateful for any advice.  Love Di xxx
Ps. I dont want to take him to the vet unless I have to, as the lady vet he is used to has moved away.  The new vet is a man, and Ben is still quite nervous with men,
Nancee

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 The puffy eye thing definitely sounds like allergies. Was he sneezing at all? Or, a runny nose, etc.?
 You could always try Chlormitron (spelling?) at a low dose/anti-histamine. I used to give that to my cat when his allergies got bad, 1/4 tablet. As long as he doesn't have glaucoma, etc, which is a contraindication to giving it.
 It might be hard to find the allergen if there are alot of plants/shrubs around. Maybe this is just a one time occurence.
  You could give him an anti-histamine every day for a couple of days and see if it makes a difference.
  If he had a severe anaphlactic (overblown allergy attack affecting whole body), he would have been "shocky." Listless, weak, etc. I doubt it was that. Hope he's feeling better today.
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Di--- Could it possibly be a certain type of cleaner in the house?  That kind of reaction doesn't necessarily mean an outside source.  I can only say that because one of our cats had the same symptoms and we couldn't figure out what it was, until we eliminated some things along the way.  We found out he was jumping in the tub and licking the drain area (I guess for water--which he had plenty of anyway) which had been cleaned with a certain solution.  Check to see if you have anything around--rug cleaner, bathroom cleaner, air sprays, etc. that could possibly be the culprit.  It took us a while to figure it out.

                               Good luck--Teddy's Mom
Luna13

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The above posts gave you some good advise - the only other thing I can think of is maybe his food - try changing it to another brand maybe.  I'm so sorry I hope you find the answers your looking for!  Poor baby!

God Bless
Gerlie (Gypsy and Luna's forever mom)
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Basil, my vet recommended (for allergies) childrens Benadryl liquid. No alcohol (a must) with a syringe, 5 cc. orally. This used to help my Bennie a lot. It does sound allergic. I don't know what Bennie was allergic to, but this helped.

Hope this helps.

basil

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Thanks for your replies.  I think it was in the garden though as he had just come in, but I am still thinking of cleaners maybe.  He only had human food last night, chicken and veg, so I dont think it was that.  Thank you all though, your advice has widened my search as to the cause.
He is back to his normal, naughty self today, just hope it doesnt happen again.  Love Di xxx
JerryC

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Glad he is back to his "naughty: self today. But as the others posted it sounded like some sort of allergy.---Jerry in Oklahoma.

basil

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Thank you Jerry my friend
He is really tired tonight.  He is well, but is a typical Spanish dog, he loves his sleep.  My partner has just taken him for a walk, and he is comatose.  I have just told him that he needs to be a well boy now, and was rewarded by a big long leg around my neck.  He is the most cuddly baby I have ever known.  Much ;love, Di xxx
Luna13

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Basil - I'm so glad to hear he's ok!  I hope he stays healthy from here on out.  He sounds like an absolute doll!  :)

Hugs!

Gerlie (Gypsy and Luna's forever mom)
Loudpurring

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Hi;
Sorry, I just saw this post now. Had an incrediably long horrible day at work. Have to be back in 6 hours. Sorry I am complaining.
 
Sounds like a reaction to something. How's that for stating the obvious. As youknowI am not a vet an can only speculate etc etc.
 
Any bees in your area? could he have been stung? Any type of mold? Foxtails? Skunk you woul smell. Uhhhh How about carpet cleaners? Fabric softener?
 
If I were you i would start with the obvious things like bee stings. that is what i have seen do that before. that and occasional pennicillin reactions. Really sounds like a bee sting to me.  Sounds like she got over this already.
 
I have my cat on a hyposensitization schedual giving antigens, so there is always a risk of a reaction. I keep on hand Benedryl (Diphenhydramine) it is over the counter. Just in case of a reaction such as that. You need to at the very least call your vet or a vet and get an ok to give. But with the history and I would assume it may happen again, make the call before you have the problem, so you are prepared. Be careful of course because all drugs can have adverse reactions. So, call your old Vet if you can find her and explain everything that has gone on with your dog and see if that is an option as to something you can do should it happen again.
 
If you cannot locate your Vet, E-mail me with her name and I will see if I can locate her and a Number for her, as I do have access to all that type stuff.
 
I truly hope your dog is doing better. I wish I had seen this soner.
 
Loudpurring

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Yeah, i just reread your posts. My money is on bee sting. You hadn't vaccinated him at all with in a few hours of the swelling had you? Oh and on the Benedryl the same dose is not the same for all dogs. I personally like the pills because I like to just "shove them down the throat " sometimes the childrens syrup can be stupidly flavored cherry that dogs usually don't like. But this is just my personal preference. I think you should check with your vet first but the low dose of benedryl has been stated in some writings as
2 mg/kg
Good luck.

Oh and any time you have a reaction like that you have to worry about it going full blown anaphalaxis and having swelling of the throat.
Not trying to scare you.

Good luck I hope this was just a one time thing.
basil

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Thank you so much Heidi,
That is what I was worrying about, the anaphylactic shock thing.  It came up so quickly it was frightening.  I live in Spain, and although I am taking lessons my Spanish is not very good yet.  The lady vet we used to have has moved away, she spoke a little English so we could get by.  I think the new vet is a man.  I am a bit reluctant to take Ben to see him yet, as, I think that Ben was probably abused by a man, which is why he is so nervous of them. 
I suppose I could go and introduce myself, and see if I can explain.  I actually have a friend that speaks good Spanish, I could ask her to come with me.  Thank you Heidi, and everybody else.  Di xxx

Nancee

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Do they give pet owner's w/ a hx of allergies like this an epi pen to take home with them just in case it happened again?

basil

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Nancee
Thank you for that.  I will just have to go to the vet and find out, im not sure how they do things here.  We have got those awful processional caterpillars here, that are so toxic, they can kill in a very short time, so maybe the pens would be available.  By the way, it wasnt a caterpillar reaction, as they are out of season now.  Thanks Nancee for the advice.  Love Di xxx
Loudpurring

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the usual treatment, it has been so long since I have done one, but they will usually treat a bee or wasp ( did I mention that I think it was a bee) (Yeah, mabey once or twice huh?) anyway....I digress>>>>
 
Okay the last one I did (bee sting that is) injectable benedryl, injectable cortisteroids, ( you don't ever want to mess with steroids at home) both injections IV the cortisteroids real slow and start IVF with a bolus for shock.  Epinephrine if real bad. Constant monitoring of the temperature as these dogs can spike a fever.
 
If you get a chance Di, go on the MERCK Veterinary Manual site, I think it is  merckvetmanual.com or something, look up anaphalaxis. It might have some information for you.
 
I hope your baby is doing well now.
 
Heidi



basil

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Heidi
Just returned from the vets.  She has given me prednisolona, cortisone I believe.  I have to give him one pill if it happens again and then call the emergency number.  She said it could gradually get worse with successive bites, if he gets any more. 
She thinks it was a spider bite, apparently there are some very unfriendly spiders here, that dont take kindly to dogs noses interfering with them. 
Thank you so much, you are a doll.  Just going to check out that link.  Love Di xxx
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Hi Di, I am so glad your Ben is doing better. I spoke with a friend of mine who said it sounds like a bee/spider bite. The problem is how do you ever know your pet has been stung. Let us know how Ben makes out, I hope it is just a one time thing. Donna, Mr. Meowgy's mom

basil

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Thank you Mr Meowgys Mum

I have a horrible feeling that he is just prone to allergic reactions.  He had the conjunctivitis thing earlier in the year.  He is only young, and loves being outside, I cant watch him every moment.  I didnt see any mark where he was bitten, or I would have known.  Thanks Di xxx
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Glad Ben is doing better. I know how difficult it is to watch them every minute. When Peach was outside one minute she was there and the next minute gone, she didn't go far but being small she was hard to spot at times. I would start to look for her and turn around and she was back where she started from, I think it was her way of playing hide and seek.----------Jerry in Oklahoma.

Loudpurring

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You will usually see some sort of mark if it is a spider bite or a BEE sting. When the swelling has gone down depending on the density of the fur or hair and the color of the dog. Spider bites usually cause the skin to get necrotic where the bite is. But, that doesn't happen for a few days to a week. At least the ones I have seen

basil

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Heidi
I thought there was a little raised bit on Bens nose.  But the fur is sort of tight, and I couldnt part it enough to see his skin.  At least I now have the prednisolene as an emergency measure. 
Ben is fine now, so fine now in fact, he escaped from the garden tonight so that he could play with the kids.  At least he came to me when I called him.  Love Di xxx
Ps thanks again for all of your help and advice.  You are an angel 
Loudpurring

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Hi;
I am so glad Ben is doing better and having fun. If you can, ask your Vet about the benadryl (Diphenhydramine). The reason I ask is because it is an antihistamine and the reaction is from histamines. So it does help.
Heidi
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