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katndogs

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This is always the first place I come when something is amiss with my companion critters. Over the last 4 years I've had to be here several times. This is a BLESSED site!
Now my Incredibly wonderful Rottie, Karma, is at the Vet receiving iv fluids to flush her kidneys. She'll probably be there for the next 3 days . or more. the idea being that a good flush will stimulate the kidneys back into functioning again. Then at home I can administer fluids subcutaneously on a daily basis. There are meds to regulate the parathyroid and maintain good calcium levels.
She was diagnosed with Congenital Kidney Disease when she was 6 months old, the Vet said she probably wouldn't make it to a year. She's now 2 and half! She's been on a veterinary reduced protein diet since that diagnosis and twice a week I lug an 18 litre bottle of reverse osmosis water for her. The only "treats" she gets are the occasional raw baby carrots and the odd raw brocolie stems.
And now it looks like we may be heading down that inevitable road . . what can I say? WE need your prayers. If this is "It", may I have the wisdom to know when to let go . . if not . . then I'd really like to have the summer with her . We love the woods in the summer . . cooler than the rest of the world and full of adventures and discoveries . . she's a really great friend and my loving companion (not to mention my Business Partner!) I can't tell you what it was like coming home to no dog . . not pleasant!
Hopefuly we'll get a repreive . . I'll check in here and let you know . . . either way . . I'll be back!
Kat & Karma
Gruntsmomforever

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Dear katndogs,

My heart goes out to you, and many prayers and hopeful thoughts for you and your Beloved, Karma.

Hugs,
Katharine, Grunt's Mom Forever
NinaMariasMom

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Kat,

Karma will be in my prayers that what the vet is doing will get her kidneys functioning again.   I know it is very hard knowing what to do, I pray that you will get the wisdom you need.   I'm praying you have the summer together.

Extra prayers for both of you,
Nina Maria's Mom
katndogs

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Thank you both for your replies and good wishes . .
I must be somewhat out of it . . I wrote that Karma was diagnosed with "Congenital Kidney Disease" when it was DEFECT . . not disease . .
just spoke with the Vet who said she ate a whole can of food . . is still lethargic . . she's been out for a couple of walks and pees . . God bless her . . I'm trying to get my mind on ANYthing else . . but she keeps coming in . . I know she has no idea why she's there and that is making me nuts 'er.
Hope she sleeps tonight . . don't know if I will.
MOLLYSMUM

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Dear katndogs;  My thoughts and blessings I send to you and Karma; I do hope she feels better when you get her home ; and that you both have the best of hunting and roaming around in the woods you can have;; I have just collected my Lucy from the vet tonight;; and we are going through the same agonising heart ache as you;;and I shall be going to all of Lucys favorite places and letting her feel free;;;So you have lots of big hugs and special time with your Angel as well and I shall be thinking of you both;;; Love and Hugs to you both;;;   MOLLYSMUM.  Marion.

katndogs

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Thank you Marian,
I went to see her this afternoon, took a smelly old blanket and the remains of her favourite toy and 4 litres of her reverse osmosis water . . she looks a bit better after 2 days of flushing, she's eating, eliminating, we went for a brief walk and then I got in the cage with her and loved on her real good! Told her to do what the techs tell her and No Barking! She'll continue on fluids till friday then home. This will probably become a weekly thing, the iv fluids and flushing . . whatever it takes !
Blessings to everyone who comes here and God Bless Ed.!
Katherine
katndogs

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UPDATE

Saw her again this afternoon . .she wants to come home!
she's a little better . . she's coming home tomorrow reguardless. Spoke with the Vet. taking more blood today to see where her levels are . . that'll be how they can tell just how much more time we have together . . I fear it won't be a lot. We'll going into the woods first thing . .seeing all her favourite spots . . maybe just sit together for awhile and drink up this glorious Spring . . I will be giving great thanks for evey moment I have had with this amazing dog soul . . after a rough beginning, she's become a remarkably intelligent, intuitive, friendly/outgoing, gentle dog . . hey, she was raised by cats! She was awarded the Canadian Kennel Clubs Canine Good Neighbour standing after passing a 12 point test . . she was so wonderful . . knew she was being tested and came through with flying colours . . she's my Baby Girl ! I'll try to get a shot of the event for all to see.
I'll keep checking in . .thank God this site exists . .
blessings all!
Katherine & Karma
MusicMagEditor

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My heart and prayers go out to you and your special loved one.  I'm loosing my beloved Wizard Kitty, my est friend and companion of just short of 17 years.  He has Renal Failure and the vet gives him but a couple weeks if I'm lucky, but told me I should put him to sleep before that so the painful part can be avoided.  I'm giving him fluids under his skin now and he's being so good about the needle, but he don't sit still for long as he doesn't like to cool or chilly fluid.

He's in my lap right now as I type!  I love him and will miss him so.  He is a huge part of my life.

So, I can totally relate and I wish you the vest best.  I'm so sorry!

Bob
Wizard's Dad forever!
katndogs

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Hi Bob, and thanks for posting . . I was at your post just now and saw that someone had already made the suggestion I was about to, ie: before giving Wiz his sub-cu fluids, soak the bag in a bowl of very warm water for about 20 min. then give the bag a little rotation to mix the warm and not-so-warm fluids together . . warm is MUCH better . and the lump under the fur is the fluids . they will dissperse in time . . just make certain he gets the amount the Vet reccomended. I wish there was something I could do at home for my Karma, but sub-cu isn't effective in dogs and the larger dogs . . forget it . . I would need MANY bags each day . . Look after YOU Bob, Wiz still needs You!
God Bless us all !
Katherine
MOLLYSMUM

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Hello Katherine and Karma; I do hope Karma comes home today; and you both have that wonderfull walk in the wood,s it sounds so special and peacefull;; I took Lucy to her park 3 times today;but it has been raining here quite heavy but we managed to take a few photos with Hamish beside Lucy;and her having a good roll around in the grass;we also viited work so the guy,s there could talk to her;she loves Mr; Max; he works in the office and she will roll on her back and lick him and snuggle up; does not do this with everyone;; just her special friends;I have just managed to get her to drink some water; as she wont eat and has been sick several times today; her levels were 16.4 today ;how did Karma go; Like you Katherine Iam not looking forward to the next few days or hours for that matter?but I do hope Karma is feeling a bit better and you have some great time together;;;She sounds such a wonderfull treasure; you are both so lucky to have found one another and been on so many adventures together;; I send lots of hugs and Prayers to you both I shall keep you in my thoughts;; Marion.  MOLLYSMUM.                     

katndogs

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Thank You Marion, Karma came home yesterday afternoon . . her blood levels were worse (!?) after 4 days of flushing . . can't help but wonder if the stress of being in a cage may be a factor . .she's eating very little, very lethargic, didn't want to go to far on our walk yesterday (?), but she's HOME! I'm lovin' on her somthin' powerful! HOPE we make it through the weekend, really! It's not good and I will not allow her to get to a state without any dignity. I'm thinking of cancelling ALL my appointments to be with her . . though money IS an issue here . .the vet bills could buy another dog . . or two! This is NOT the fun part, but I've been through this before . . it never gets easier . . I've just develped the "skills" to deal with it and I've certainly learned a lot . . like most who come to this message board. . . your dogs are GEORGOUS !
I'm telling Karma all about The Bridge . . about all my friends that are there (and there's a "Zoo"!) and how we'll all meet up there one day . . and what A GREAT Dog she is . . . we're going to try to go for a walk soon . . early morning in the woods, the smells of Spring, (and all the creatures that walked around during the night!) . . I must say, there has been an amazing amount of support from all the dog people we know . . people will surprise you if you let them!
Blessings to all And Special Blessings to EdW !
Gruntsmomforever

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Dear Katherine,

I'm thinking of you and your dear Karma this morning, and continuing to keep the both of you in my prayers.  I think the stress from being in a cage away from home can impact a baby in a negative way.  What can you do though when intensive care and treatment are needed.

I hope for gentle moments for you loving your Beloved Girl.

Katharine, Grunt's Mom Forever
wendywoo

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Hello Katherine.
I'm so sorry for what you are going through.
It brought back some sad memories from reading your post, as I lost my darling boy Zippy on January 13th from chronic kidney failure. He was only 4.  
Nobody could tell me why / how his kidney failure occurred which is the hardest thing.
He got sick on Sunday 30th Dec and they ran blood tests which showed he was in CRF. He was admitted for IV fluids for 3 days the next day and when he was released from vet hospital his levels had come down but were still high. But he was like a new dog - his coat was soft, he was like a puppy when we brought him home. I cling on to those memories now.
But within a few days those levels were climbing again. I was told it could be weeks or months but that wasn't to be.
On Sun 13th January he started vomiting blood and this I believe is called uraemia where the inability to fluch toxins through the kidneys mean the body is being poisoned by them ... and ulcerating the intestines.  
While they said I could buy a little time with a further IV flush, my decision was not to put him through that again ... I had had an extra 10 days with him, those days will always be precious, but I made the decision to PTS and stayed with him while he went...
it was the hardest decision in my life, but it was done with all the love in the world as I didn't want him to suffer any more. I miss him all the time and still cry most days and it is 19 weeks tomorrow since I had to let him go. I feel like my life has changed forever and feel so lonely without my sweet Zippy.
I wish I could say something to help, but all I CAN say is I know exactly what you are going through, and I feel for you so much. 
You are in my thoughts.
Wendy x  
coralie

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Dear Katherine, I am praying for you and Karma. Thank you for your kind words on my post about my kitten Jazz having rare kidney disease. To be in such pain but still offering great comfort shows what a special human being you truly are. So think you will know when and if it is the right time. Hugs, Coralie
katndogs

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God Bless ALL of you for taking the time to post. It means a lot as I'm certain you know. Karma won't eat, I'm syringing water into her mouth a little at a time trying to stimulate her to drink . . sometimes it works! . . mostly not. She won't eat even her vanilla yogurt !. . tomorrow could be really tough on both of us. But she's so stoic! She looks at me sometimes like she's ashamed for her state . . I just love on her and tell her what A GREAT dog she is ! and "it's alright, no problem , whatever you want my love". . . without going into sordid details, . . she's not comfortable. Little walks are a welcomed distraction. She'll stand in the fresh grass, gaze off into the distance, wind blowing her fur heroicly . .my heart just swells with gratitude for her presence. I spoke with the Vet this afternoon, want details of what to expect . . not much anyone can do at this point . . made the appointent for monday morning, 9:30 am . .when she'll cross over, in my arms naturally! Have a friend who will drive us.
This SO sucks!
But I am blessed . . to have had her at all . . such a short time I know but SO filled with love and blissful moments . . I feel for the people who never know this much love . . now THAT is sad! I find there are people around me who care more than I would have guessed ! And as ever, this site is truly a Blessed place! (God Bless EdW VERY much!)
I suspect it's all about Spirit/Soul . . and this is maybe "Spiritualbootcamp", . . . manure occurreth! It's how we deal with it that the Soul grows . . perhaps we all ARE, "Angels-inTraining"
Aw . . don't listen to me . . what do I know!
Blessings all . . I'm exhausted!
au demain!
K&K
MOLLYSMUM

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Hello Katherine; Iam so very very sorry to hear about Karma; What a Brave girl she is and you are the Greatest of Mom,s You are truely Blessed with shareing such devoted Love and Relationship you have with each other;;Such a precious Feeling to have in your Hearts forever;You are both in my thoughts and Heart;for this journey is not easy;;Like you Iam doing the same with Lucy she wont eat or drink;; and today is a bad day for her also;;Give your Darling as many hugs and loves as you can;;because she knows you dont want her to be in pain any more;;but to have that free spirit and fly and run in the wind;;where she will look down and say I love you Mum and I shall always be by your side forever; Iam glad to hear you have a friend going with you Tomorrow;I wish I could be there and give you a comfort hug myself;;but I shall be there in spirit and my Prayers; Take care Special Lady!!!like Karma you are both one in a MILLION!!!!!Peace and Blessings to you Both;;;;Love Marion;;; Mollysmum.

katndogs

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Sunday morning, 9:15 am, Cda.
This is going to be the "longest-shortest" day . . she's SO not well. her usually black gums (Rottie) are grey . .bad sign, her drool contains small amounts of blood, she took me into the woods just now, found a luscious patch of grass in a sunny clearing and just plopped down, head between her paws . .I figure whatever she wants is fine with me. we sat there for the longest time, listening to all the birds singing like a sunday choir! The sun must feel good on her black fur. I know she's in an aweful state, . . this day is going to be a long one . . can't bear to see her suffer . . drawing this out is torture for both of us . . she can't seem to find a comfortable position, keeps changing spots . . there's a restlessness . . in the wild, this is when dogs go off alone to die . . . I'm pretty sure that instinct was kicking in just now in the woods . .
Oh, "the pain of too much tenderness"!
I fear she may pass on her OWN today . . don't want to think about that!
I am thinking that I should have taken in her to cross yesterday . . should've/could've . . this can drive a person insane . . it is what it is , , and here we are . .
Oh God, Pray for US!
Kat & Karma


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Dear Kat-- I've been following your posts and want you to know that I've been saying prayers for you and your dear Karma.  My heart goes out to you as I fully know the unbearable pain of watching a furbaby deteriorate before your very eyes.  Reading your words brings back all the sorrow I went through with my little Teddy.  I guess being on this site helps us to know that we're not alone on this sad journey, and that we all love & support each other while we have to bear living through this tragic situation.
    I will be thinking of you and praying very hard for a gentle transition of Karma to the Rainbow Bridge.

             Many hugs and love---Teddy's Mom
mykittygirl

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Dear One,

I'm so sorry..how I know the pain you are in right now. This is our hell on earth time. Talk to Karma and tell her it's ok to leave that she is the most wonderful companion you have ever had on earth and that you are so grateful for her. I believe they will leave as they choose to. And they we are so blessed to have shared time with them...in spite of the pain we are going through.

Two weeks before my Cicio died she had panicked at the vet while having her glucose checked and they had to sedate her and give her oxygen. I heard her very clearly..that she would never go into that carrier again. I dreaded having to take her in that last time.

I believe she left HER way. She waited for me to come home..she was very weak...and after some gasping for breath she left me.

There was the most beautiful and peaceful look on her face..her mouth in a smile and her front paws crossed as she did when she was relaxing. I will never forget that...her spirit had smiled before leaving it's sad body. Her last gift to me.

I am holding you in spirit...your pain will be great...but it's a testament to the unending love between you.

Donna
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Dear Kat,

I am so sorry your beloved companion and best friend, Karma, is so gravely ill.  I can tell from your posts that you are almost exhausted at this point.  I just wish there was something I could do or say to make things easier for you.  I say you, instead of Karma, because the process of letting go of a baby is horrifically painful and stressful for furparents.   Four weeks ago, I had my beloved little terrier, Betsy, put to sleep.  She suffered from dementia and was very frail and weak at the end, but still able to eat well but I had to hand-feed her.  The decision to let her go was the hardest, but the most merciful, decision I have ever made in my life.  I still miss her tremendously.

I will be thinking of you and saying prayers for you and Karma.

Hugs,
Melissa
Betsy's forever mom


Gruntsmomforever

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Dear Kat,

Just wanted to let you know I've been thinking of you and Karma, and lots of prayers being said for both of you.  My friend, we are all with you in spirit - I feel what you must be going through, I am so sorry.  Dearest Karma, love surrounds you, little girl.

Love,
Katharine, Grunt's Mom Forever
AaronDogg33

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I know how you feel. Kidney failure is what killed my cat. I just hope your situation turns out better then my Tiggers. It is a very painful and sad thing to watch your animal go through. The last couple days of my cats life continue to stick in my mind. I pray that you don't have to suffer the way i did.

God Bless.
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