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I am using my wife's account here cause she is so upset by what has happened. That she just can't keep her mind on things right now.
My baby girl Icy is sick. She has been diagonised with Pemphigus. It is a group of rare autoimmune blistering diseases of the skin and/or mucous membranes.

She has been crying constantly since she come home with Icy from the Vet's office, she is a Great Pyr crossed with a Collie. She's only 5 yrs old. My wife brought her in 11 days ago to get groomed and the groomer said something about Icy's stomach area, and her butt end, being so red, and that the fur was coming out in handfuls with skin attached. My wife brought Icy to the vets right away. And he looked at her for about 20 mins and talked with my wife for another 30 mins about what it might be. He put her on a drug called cephalexin. Cephalexin is an antibiotic that belongs to the family of medications known as cephalosporins. It is used to treat certain types of infections caused by bacteria. Cephalexin is most often used to treat infection of the skin, ear, bladder, bone, and sinus. Icy has finished the 10 days, but now the Vet wants to keep her on this drug for another 20 days, 3 times a day. Hoping that Icy will be a bit better. And then after that the Vet will keep her off of all drugs for the next 10 days, and they take the plugs of skin that is needed for the tests. We are all hoping and praying that it isnt pemphigus. But as my wife was leaving the office, the Vet said that he really thinks that it is pemphigus. The sides of her nose is showing it, one side has cleared up but the other hasn't yet. My wife has read so much about this disease so much since the visit 11 days ago, she knows just about all there is to know about it, and what will happen to Icy. When she goes to sleep at night she is up 5 or 6 times a night going to check up on Icy, to make sure she is sleeping. The one good thing that the Vet told us is that Icy isn't as itchy as she should be with this, and the only thing that he can think of is that Icy's treashhold for being itchy is so very high that it isnt bothering her very much right now. The Vet was happy about that.

My wife is having a very hard time about Icy cause we just lost a sheltie a few months ago, the last of the 4 dogs she has had for over 22 yrs. And now Icy, she can't take much more of what is happening to Icy. She loves this dog so much, she took Icy out of a puppy mill 5 yrs ago. and has fallen so much in love with Icy, that she can't lose this one too. It would break her heart. I don't know how to comfort her, I am at my wits end at what I can do for Icy and my wife. Icy is my dog more cause Icy come to me first before going to my wife. The lady where Icy was treated Icy with a whip and I think that is why Icy comes to me more. But my wife loves her so much that I know she would go to the end of the earth with Icy.

This is what we read on one site, which I wish my wife never did read.
Expense and side effects can be very taxing for a pet owning family and in one retrospective study of 43 dogs with pemphigus foliaceus a 60% mortality rate was observed, largely reflecting euthanasia.

Any suggestions would be so much needed for both of us. Please anyone that knows about this disease can you tell us what to expect please.   Here is a picture of our baby girl Icy, we love her so much.  Don't think we can bare to lose her.

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Glenn and Andrea


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Your Icy is just beautiful. I myself have never heard of the this disease. However, later this morning I will ask friends who are Vets what they think.

Io well do I know how distressing it is when a fur baby is ill. I spent many nights with Hershey just watching him and knowing in my heart that he was in pain.

Please know that we are here for you. Our prayers for you, your wife and Icy.


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Your Icy is adorable! I don't know anything about this illness but wanted you to know you are in my thoughts and prayers. Please get well Icy! Donna, Mr. Meowgy's mom


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((((((Glenn, Andrea and ICY))))))))))))))

So sad to hear about your dear pet.  I haven't heard of that condition but I truly hope and pray that this beautiful dog can be saved.  Many thoughts and prayers are with you.  This site is a wonderful place with many caring people. who all love pets.  Please know many prayers and all good thoughts are going out to you all. 

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Wow, Icy is absolutely gorgeous!  What a beautiful furbaby!  You are all in my thoughts and prayers today.  Please keep us posted, and never lose hope. Put it in God's hands - that's the best place anyone can be.  Blessings and Hugs to you.

Gerlie (Gypsy & Luna's forever mom)

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I'm so sorry about Icy - she is so beautiful.  Unfortunately, I can't be much help with the condition that Icy might have. I'm sorry but please know that I will be keeping Icy and you guys in my prayers.


Piggy's Mom

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Oh my tears are coming  down for your sweet Icy,oh Andrea & you can not give up another baby,I pray that God will hear our prayers and let her be well,I can't believe this is happening to our sweet Andrea again,Oh God please help her and please keep Icy safe please let a miracle happen for Icy,Andrea,& Glenn.know my love thoughts,and prayers are with you all.Please keep us posted  on Icy,and your Icy is beautiful, What a  wonderful dog.
Love,Prayers And  Hugs
JoAnn Sammy sus's Mom


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Glenn -

I am so sorry you and Andrea are facing such tough times right now.  Icy is beautiful!  You are angels for rescuing Icy from that horrible situation.

I have 5 Shelties.  Through my married life I have had 13.  One of my Shelties, Kolbi, had a similar thing happen to her.  It is often referred to as "Sheltie Skin Syndrome" but the real name of it is dermatomyocitis.  It is also an autoimmune disease.  I don't want to offer false hope and would never do that because I am also a RN.   However, I think that the only way you will know for sure is to have the skin biopsies.  There are many different autoimmune diseases that will cause these symtoms in dogs.  Many of them are treatable.  Kolbi was diagnosed at 6 months.  Our original vet suggested that we have her PTS right then and there.  I chose not to and Kolbi lived 9 wonderful years with us.  Collies can also get this so there is a possiblity of it being something else.  I am sure the vet is hoping that too.  That is why he is doing the biopsies.  I will say many prayers for you that this is not what the vet thinks that it is.  Be stong and know that all of us here will be sending good thoughts your way.  

HUGS to you and Andrea and to Icy!

Kassidy's mom

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Please know that I'll be saying many prayers for your beautiful Icy.  I'm sure that everyone on this site will be pulling for her.  The power of prayer is so strong and hopefully, it will help Icy to recover and be with you & Andrea.

        All my thoughts are with you both----Teddy's Mom

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Dear Glenn and Andrea,

My heart goes out to you both and I keep your precious Icy in my thoughts and prayers.  Your post brought tears to my eyes, and I am so sorry you are going through this with Icy's condition.  I hope you get a firm diagnosis soon so you can get on with treatment and bring your baby back to good health.  Please keep us posted on how things are going.

Katharine, Grunt's Mom Forever

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Oh, my dear Glenn and Andrea,

My heart is aching for you.  I wish there was something, anything I could do to help and to make this less painful and stressful for you.  Andrea, you have been such a loving source of support for me.  I will offer up many prayers for you and for your beloved Icy.   May God hold you in the palm of His hand and give you strength as you face this illness with Icy.  

I know very little about this disease in canines, but will try to do some research on the internet.   There may be another furparent out there who has seen this before.   Cephalexin is an antibiotic we use on human patients and is effective for certain infections.  It sounds like your vet is very caring and is working closely with you and keeping you informed.  

I have lit a candle for Icy under her name on AurichWolf's Light a Candle Here thread.   May it bring you some peace tonight.

Please keep us posted on your beautiful girl's progress.   We are going to HOPE for the very best outcome.   Andrea and Glenn, please stay strong and know we are all here for you.

Sending love and hugs,
Betsy's forever mom


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Dear Glenn and Andrea

Your Icy is absolutely precious.  I wish I knew something about this disease that I could share with you.  I'm sure someone here will be able to offer advice.  I will keep all of you in my thoughts and prayers.

God bless sweet Icy and may he use his healing powers on her.

Kate (Gus' mom)


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First let me say that when you research any veterinary subject, please stick with either the Merck Veterinary Manual or a well known Univesity such as Cornell web site. There is so much missinformation out there, and some people with DVM's after their names are nut cases and or liars. So please stick with what you know is acurate.Also alot of good intentioned people will confuse you .
It is an auto imune disease. There should have been a biopsy done when you took her in before giving any medication.I don't know why that wasn't done. It can be brought on by medications or by genetics. It is very sensitive to sunlight, so keep your pet out of the sun. A fungal culture should be preformed to make sure it is nothing else. There are alot of other things it could be some easier to treat than ohers. Way to much for me to write here. My best advice to you would be to get your dog ASAP to a veterinary dermatologist. You really need a doctor that does nothing but skin. Think about it, how many human doctors do you know that treat skin disease and heart disease in a person. NONE. That is because you can't know everything about everything and it is hard enough to just know something of one thing. imagine trying to know all. Not good. So please if you can get her to a dermatologist and do so quickly. You may not be dealin with PFA. But, if you are there are many new treatment options available now for PFA. But I am sure that only a Vet Dermatologist is going to know what is best to do.
I wish you the best of luck.
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